QuestionQUESTION: I read threw all other "experts" but you are the only one which comes near what I belive and have lernt. I live in Switzerland so I am trying to keep with meat which I do consider o.k.; I don't want to get my self in hospital like I did on bio vegis and fruit (spent more kaloris (carb, which forms bad health) going threw health stores than I was eating.
Well just a last question; you didn't mention what you do about the weight meat (A.V. mentions to eat red, weight and fish). I can not belive that the Inuit had hens or eggs and some meat eaters just never so any fish!
P.S. People only eat liver (lambs liver is sweet to me) and if I would want any other organs (I think I would only choose lamb; I don't trust other animals), then I would have to order them and then you have to eat organs till you cant face them any more. This doesn't seem to trouble me with beef or lamb and fat. I also didn't know that organ meat had a lot of fat; I don't find liver fatty, to me it is carby. I think one can over do things with organ meat because they are very concentrated (also with toxins).
Please excuse my Englisch; I am better in German.
Regards
Nicola
ANSWER: (Ich bin eigentlich halb-Oesterreicher, also kann Ich Deutsch(und Franzoesisch) sehr gut verstehen. Aber Ich werde mit Englisch antworten weil Ich nicht genug Moeglichkeit habe andere Sprachen zu sprechen, hier in London, und eine andere Sprache perfekt zu schreiben ist schwerer als es zu Sprechen).
Re meat/Switzerland:- I understand your situation. I visit Austria quite often, and pass through other countries such as Switzerland - and the organic-label in those countries is mostly applied to fruit and veg only , with very little organic-labelled meat, except for organic chicken.
My experience is that meat in some European countries is of a higher quality than in the UK and the US, as they use fewer antibiotics/hormones, and feed them less grain and more grass. The general rule with good-quality meat is that the smaller the producer/farmer, the higher the quality of the meat - larger producers/agricombines tend to have more money to waste on chemicals. So it would be a good idea to visit local farmer's markets in your area - if a farmer raises rarer breeds of cattle/pigs then, usually, greater care will be taken re the animals, so the quality of the meat will be higher. I suspect that the kind of meats I've recommended will be much the same sort of price as you'll find in the supermarket, not being anywhere near as expensive as organic-labelled meat in the UK. At any rate, even the supermarket meats in Switzerland will be of higher nutritional value than those in the UK, given our feedlot practices etc.
(One meat to avoid, by the way, is veal, as the way it's raised is very questionable).
Re eggs/white meats:- AV is dead-wrong about the need for lots of raw eggs in the diet. A number of people have complained of side-effects from eating so many eggs. In my own case, I prefer not to eat more than c.6 (mostly chicken) eggs a month, often none at all - the only exception is during a month or so in late spring, each year, when there are some raw goose-eggs available.
Re other white-meats/AV etc.:- I don't generally agree with AV's theories re white/red-meat balance:- I just eat whatever's available, and what I like and is healthy for me,
, as long as I'm sure it's of high enough food-quality. I'd agree that having too much fish in one's diet
is probably a bad idea - our Palaeo ancestors likely only ate some (freshwater) fish occasionally, if at all.
. However, I think I happen to do very well, healthwise, on raw shellfish, so I'm not absolutely sure re this.
Re Inuit diet:- According to Stefansson and other explorers
, the Inuit would occasionally eat some berries in summer(the more southerly Inuits?), but would otherwise eat an all-meat diet, consisting of some organ-meats and muscle-meats from marine mammals.
. They occasionally threw away the livers from a couple of animals, such as polar-bears, but would avidly eat livers from seals etc. They also ate a lot of fish.
(If you want to read more detailed information on all-animal-food diets, you'll have to read diet-books by the Arctic explorer Vilhjalmur Stefansson. They're mostly out-of-print, though you can sometimes get them 2nd-hand on www.amazon.com . The two books I know of are either "Not By Bread Alone " or the enlarged edition called "The Fat of the Land" - though I know he wrote about the diet in some of his other Arctic exploration books and in his autobiography.
Here are also some info on Stefansson's no-carb diet:-
http://www.biblelife.org/stefansson1.htm
http://www.biblelife.org/stefansson2.htm
http://www.biblelife.org/stefansson3.htm
Re liver/organ-meats:- Lamb-meat is quite reliable, as it's much more likely to be grass-fed than other livestock-animals.
Liver and kidney aren't high in fat.Tongue, marrow and suet are very high in fat - with raw suet being 100% fat. You're quite right to be concerned re quality of organ-meats from supermarkets, which is why I suggested visiting smaller producers, to ensure a high enough quality - the high level of concentrated nutrients in organ-meats is actually highly
beneficial, and not a problem per se, but it's true that intensively-farmed nonorganic-raised animals tend to concentrate toxins in the livers etc.
What you could do, after ordering organ-meats, is to use a large freezer-compartment for storing them, like the Americans do, and just eat a little of them every so often.
(While I don't personally follow a no-carb raw diet, but a low-carb one for various reasons,
there are a couple of members on my rawpaleodiet Yahoo Group who are following this sort of no-plant-food (raw)
diet, and have been doing so for months. So you might want to ask questions there. I know of one poster, in particular, who eats only grass-fed meat and smaller amounts of (mixed) organ-meats, and nothing else - unlike me, he's less keen on organ-meats but still needs small amounts of them.
. With the exception of the grass-fed/grain-fed issue, he does seem to be in agreement with you re not needing seafood/plant-food etc.
RPG
AnswerInteresting - the Josef Stocker page mentions the Homo Optimus Diet etc. - I know of a German guy who's doing a raw version of it.
The rawpaleodiet group is on this page:-
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rawpaleodiet/
Click on the blue button "Join This Group" and follow the instructions and you'll become a member. Make sure that the group e-mails get sent to your other e-mail-address in case your yahoo address isn't the one you use for receiving messages. In case you don't already have a Yahoo ID, you can get one on www.yahoo.com(you need a Yahoo ID before you can join any Yahoo Group). The relevant website where you can get a Yahoo ID, after filling in details, is here:-
http://tinyurl.com/ykmpcx
RPG
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